*Okay, they're two famous designers not technically talking about design; on the contrary, it's about life and psychology and experience and such, but that's about as two-designers-talking as you're ever gonna hear anywhere.
*It's like you're in their laps, really. It's like they're spoon-feeding the public some applesauce. It's sort of amazing.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/design-the-life-you-love-with-ayse-birsel/
https://flic.kr/p/27gBSu
